Lilian Ho shared images from her Vancouver, BC, Canada garden with us several times, and today she writes, “Inspired by your post 'Get Out of the Shady Rut' here is some of my shade plants – two are edible; all herbaceous perennials and all grow in shade in my very small city garden.”
Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’ (Double wood anomone zones 4 – 8) is a wonderful spring blooming perennial for shade. Skip crocuses and daffodils that really prefer sunny conditions, and plant these in your dark spots for some early spring color. Cardamine trifolia (Zones 5 – 8) is evergreen in zone 7, and has beautiful white flowers in April. Melittis melissophyllum (Zone 5-9) is very compact with small showy white-rose bicolored flower and, best of all, is slug resistant. Edibles aren’t just for people with sun! Chervil (Anthriscus cerefolium zone 2-10) is a delicate, parsley-like plant which has a taste like parsley, cilantro, and celery. Wasabi (Eutrema japonicum, zone 7-8) has small white flowers in April. It is very easy to grow and I keep dividing it & now have a patch. Native to Japanese mountains, it prefers cool summer climates and, of course, is the essential complement to sushi.
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Good morning, Lilian. Great photos. I really like the Melittis. I have never seen it before. The flowers look a bit like orchids. The leaves look like it is in the mint family. Is it very vigorous? how moist does the soil need to be to grow?
I just looked it up, and saw the common name is Bastard Balm. I wonder what the story is behind that name. Great post.
Hi Kevin. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
Hi, Lorraine,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Hi, Kevin,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Morning, Lillian. Thanks for the great posting. Such lush green colors to start a brown winter day. I especially liked the Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’ and will definitely research it as a possibility for spring color in a shady, protected area I have. Herbs are really pretty plants that work well in pots. Cilantro is a spring and fall seasonal herb here in the South; our summers are just too hot for it. Thanks for sharing.
Good morning Ms. Ho, Thank you for this post. The Chervil looks like it would add contrast & blend well in with ferns & false Salomon Seal. Both are thriving in dappled light & the and the Chervil might like that also.
Thank you & good luck, Joe
Hi, Joe,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Hi, Lillian, what a delightful sharing of alternative plants for shade. I have some great varieties of fall blooming anemones but none that put on their flower display in the spring. I really like the fresh and happy look of your white blooming, 'Vestal'...it must be a very welcome sight in the spring. How does the foliage hold up through the summer into fall? Love the bright green ( hinting of chartreuse) of the wasabi leaves but I'm sure it would wilt away my east TN summer heat.
This is a great submission, Lilian. First of all, great mix of greens, which should certainly liven up a shady spot. Secondly, great suggestions I hope to try since a large portion of my garden is wooded. We'll see what our oppressive Summers do. I really like the Cardamine trifolia. Thanks for sharing.
Hi, NC,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Fine Gardening has banned Frank from this blog and suspect that you and other GPODers never will receive this message. I don't know why Frank has been blocked, but I hate it. I also hope that Fine Gardening will continue to allow me to be a blogger on this site, but I am not very hopeful.
Hi Rhonda. Please read my message to Sonya near the top of this thread and come join us at Lilian's new Facebook "Colour of Plants" album where you can continue to chat happily with Frank about his colourful plants. Everyone is welcome.
Hi Rhonda. Yes, but it should be easy to join Facebook. You managed to sign up for GPOD, so I'm sure you can set up your FB account, too. It's free. Just google "Facebook" and then go to "Sign up" and fill in your information. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Hi, Rhonda, Steve asked me if I could help him get out word that there are some temporary problems with posting comments to the web site due to their change to a beta format:Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
I love this post, Lillian! Like Diane, I love shade plants. I need to get rid of a stand of lily of the valley and the anemone would be perfect. The only one not hardy for me would be the wasabi. Great post!!!
Thanks for sharing these recommendations, Lilian. I don't own a single spring Anemone and should rectify the situation. I've been looking for Cardamine glanduligera; there are a few Cardamine that look very garden worthy. Swooning over your Wasabi; beautiful plant and fabulous food.
Tim, Steve asked me to see if I could get out word about some temporary problems with posting comments to the web site. :Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
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If you could get the word out to anyone in the
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turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
These are some great ideas for shade, Lilian. I'm particularly drawn to the Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’... what a beauty. I was completely unaware of the Cardamine trifolia, love those leaves! It's also very cool to see your wasabi... for some absurd reason in the back of my head I thought wasabi came from a root. With the bright green color??? Really? Thanks for setting me straight Lilian, my brain can be a little scary once in a while!
Lilian, couple of questions: is the Anemone nemorosa a little invasive? I find my Anemone canadensis is taking over my Geranium sanguineum bed. Also how long can you pick the Chervil? We love cilantro, but it's growing season is so short I have to start one pot and a month later start the second pot. Maybe we could substitute the chervil? I believe I could still find room for a bed of it. Beautiful pictures and suggestions, thank you!
Hi, Sandy, I wanted to share a note I just received from Steve, the editor of Fine Gardening about some temporary problems with posting comments to GPOD:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
What great pictures and ideas for shade gardening, Lilian - thanks so much for sharing. I am also especially admiring the anemone and the Cardamine. Does anybody know if the anemone can tolerate hot, humid and dry summers? Does it go dormant in the summer? Is it aggressive as the fall anemones tend to be? Beautiful flowers - would look lovely with some white daffodils which also seem to be more tolerant of the shade under deciduous trees.
Good morning Lilian! Thanks so much for sharing these wonderful shade plants! Iam in a quander about what to plant in some shady areas that i have. I so love the foilage of the wasabi. And the melittis is one i will use for sure! There are so many nice cardamines available these days. Ive enjoyed your garden! Thanks
Hi, Jeanne, I wanted to share a note from Steve - apparently they are making changes to the website so we won't be able to comment for a couple of days until they get the new format up and running.
Good morning, Lilian. Your “little “ city garden is certainly full of some interesting plants. The Melittis looks like a great one to try in my woodland areas. I love the ‘vestal’ anemone when planted under the rhododendrons. The deer have kept us from trying this in our garden but I’ve admired it in others. Love those wasabi leaves. Do you know if it’s invasive like similar plants such as horseradish? Thanks for a great share.
Hi, Linda,
I wanted to share the note I just received from Steve regarding the web site and ability to comment on photos:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks all for your comments. English is my second language so I would answer all the questions in this. My garden is very small about 2000 square feet including paths and deck so I normally don't grow plants that are too enthusiastic (or invasive). I don't have hosta because it is too enthusiastic in my garden. All the plants in this post are more than 5 years old without transfer except Melittis melissophyllum. I consider my soil reasonably rich.
- Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’ is now a 1ft x 1ft square started from 4in pot. Dies back in the summer. Purchased from Vandysen Botanic Garden annual sale
- Cardamine trifolia is now a 1ft x 1ft square started from 4in pot in between two azaleas. I got it from Dunbar Garden club annual sale.
- Melittis melissophyllum does not have running roots but I transferred it once because it was too tall 20" tall in the front of my sunken garden. I don't know how 'invasive it would be in other parts of the world.) Gwen Odermatt at her lecture to Advanced Master Gardener. She owns Petals and Butterflies and on the Great Plant Pick committee.
- I have 3 Wasabi which is now 1ft x 1ft square starting from a 2.5" pot at $25.00. Propagated by division. I belief it has a taproot. (plants with taproot should not be too invasive I hope.) Purchased from Vandysen Botanic Garden annual Seedy Saturday.
- I don't have a problem with deer but do have problem with slugs and snail and all of above are slugs and snail resistant.
- Chervil is an annual I belief even-through some documented as perennial and it self-seeds. (a 50% reliable self seeder and I do hope it comes back this year) I grow it as a green mulch under apple trees. It is great in salads and salsa. Taste would be lost in cooking so add it before serving. I just like its very delicate small green leaves.
Hi, Michaele,
I wanted to share the note I just received from Steve, to help prevent any new rumors from circulating:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Fine Gardening has banned Frank from this blog and suspect that you and other GPODers never will receive this message. I don't know why Frank has been blocked, but I hate it. I also hope that Fine Gardening will continue to allow me to be a blogger on this site, but I am not very hopeful.
FYI, to all bloggers on this site, our fellow gardener the Wizard of Oz, has been blocked from ever posting any more on this site. I hate it as I know we all love Frank and his quirky Australian sense of humor and sharing of the unique Australian flora. I only know this because Frank and I are also Facebook friends and I don't understand why this was done. My hope is that I will not also be blocked, but so be it if I am. Fine Gardening will have lost two very faithful followers.
Thanks for the post and Franks is off the road with GPOD and I am a true follower of him so I would off the road as well. Truly enjoyed it for the past few years and great to know you all. Please Facebook me if you would like to stay in touch with me. Thanks for Fine Gardening to post my submissions.
Lilian,
I've been in touch with Steve for a couple of days, and he is working to loosen up the rules that had been put into place for GPOD. I don't know how things stand between him and Frank.
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Hi Sonya. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
Frank has not said he has been banned or blocked from GPOD, but he has been actively discouraged from contributing so often because someone complained that he was dominating the posts. Honestly, Frank's participation was one of the key reasons I began responding to posts on GPOD and I know many of the regulars have enjoyed communicating with him about his colourful Aussie plants. Plants are at the heart of gardening, so Frank's posts were always interesting and relevant.
I have always enjoyed the positive and supportive tone of our GPOD community, but these recent events have left me feeling dismayed and disappointed. If someone didn't want to see the extra photos Frank posted, couldn't they just skip them rather than complain? I suspect that there are more who enjoyed interacting with Frank than the number of complainers. If you think GPOD has made a misstep here, please send a short email message to Steve Aitken at [email protected] as he has invited below.
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Lilian, thank you for sharing your lovely photos! Anything that can stand up to slugs and snails is a winner in my book. You did a great job of adding supplemental information about these plants. I know you are sometimes a bit apologetic about your English, but it has improved even in the past year and it is so much better than my limited Mandarin! I can say "hello", "thank you", and "rice" and I cannot write any of them, so you are way ahead of me.
I, too, am upset that Frank has been banned from this blog. Especially if he was banned because he was asking for the same information that several of the rest of us were also asking. And, especially if there was no warning given that further questions would result in his being banned. One of his last entries was to ask Joseph to please answer a question that I had asked which has still not been answered. I won't have any way to let the rest of you know if I am also banned from this blog, as I am not on Facebook - but if I do get banned, you will know because you won't see any more entries from me.
Who do we express our unhappiness to?
Cheryl,
No one was banned, nor was there any suggestion of it. The only mention of banning is in this thread. If you -- or anyone -- has questions or concerns, please feel free to email me directly at [email protected]
Hi Cheryl. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
I hope you and everyone who enjoyed interacting with Frank here on GPOD will write a brief email message to Steve Aitken, editor of Fine Gardening magazine, as he has requested below at [email protected] to let him know that discouraging Frank's participation was not the right move.
Always please to see Clean and Green photos. Garden is a little paradise made by man here in earth.
Build up some wood crafts in the garden. https://tinyurl.com/ycs8oncc
Good morning Lillian. I’ve fallen in love with your Mellitis. However, it’s impossible for me to find! Evidently it has an American patent pending, which means it cannot be propagated without permission. Do you (or anyone writing here) no where I can get some?
Windermere,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Hi, Diane, Steve asked me if I could help get word out that the comment section of the GPOD blog is down, and will be until Wednesday when they complete installation of the new beta format.
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Comments
Good morning, Lilian. Great photos. I really like the Melittis. I have never seen it before. The flowers look a bit like orchids. The leaves look like it is in the mint family. Is it very vigorous? how moist does the soil need to be to grow?
I just looked it up, and saw the common name is Bastard Balm. I wonder what the story is behind that name. Great post.
Hi Kevin. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
Hi, Lorraine,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
Hi, Kevin,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
Editor
Fine Gardening
Morning, Lillian. Thanks for the great posting. Such lush green colors to start a brown winter day. I especially liked the Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’ and will definitely research it as a possibility for spring color in a shady, protected area I have. Herbs are really pretty plants that work well in pots. Cilantro is a spring and fall seasonal herb here in the South; our summers are just too hot for it. Thanks for sharing.
Good morning Ms. Ho, Thank you for this post. The Chervil looks like it would add contrast & blend well in with ferns & false Salomon Seal. Both are thriving in dappled light & the and the Chervil might like that also.
Thank you & good luck, Joe
Hi, Joe,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Hi, Lillian, what a delightful sharing of alternative plants for shade. I have some great varieties of fall blooming anemones but none that put on their flower display in the spring. I really like the fresh and happy look of your white blooming, 'Vestal'...it must be a very welcome sight in the spring. How does the foliage hold up through the summer into fall? Love the bright green ( hinting of chartreuse) of the wasabi leaves but I'm sure it would wilt away my east TN summer heat.
This is a great submission, Lilian. First of all, great mix of greens, which should certainly liven up a shady spot. Secondly, great suggestions I hope to try since a large portion of my garden is wooded. We'll see what our oppressive Summers do. I really like the Cardamine trifolia. Thanks for sharing.
Hi, NC,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Frankie, are you awake yet?
Fine Gardening has banned Frank from this blog and suspect that you and other GPODers never will receive this message. I don't know why Frank has been blocked, but I hate it. I also hope that Fine Gardening will continue to allow me to be a blogger on this site, but I am not very hopeful.
You must be kidding! How do you know this????
We are friends on Facebook.
Hi Rhonda. Please read my message to Sonya near the top of this thread and come join us at Lilian's new Facebook "Colour of Plants" album where you can continue to chat happily with Frank about his colourful plants. Everyone is welcome.
Do I have to join Facebook to do that?
Hi Rhonda. Yes, but it should be easy to join Facebook. You managed to sign up for GPOD, so I'm sure you can set up your FB account, too. It's free. Just google "Facebook" and then go to "Sign up" and fill in your information. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Hi, Rhonda, Steve asked me if I could help him get out word that there are some temporary problems with posting comments to the web site due to their change to a beta format:Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
I’m not sure what to do...
Sent from my iPad
I love this post, Lillian! Like Diane, I love shade plants. I need to get rid of a stand of lily of the valley and the anemone would be perfect. The only one not hardy for me would be the wasabi. Great post!!!
Thanks for sharing these recommendations, Lilian. I don't own a single spring Anemone and should rectify the situation. I've been looking for Cardamine glanduligera; there are a few Cardamine that look very garden worthy. Swooning over your Wasabi; beautiful plant and fabulous food.
Tim, Steve asked me to see if I could get out word about some temporary problems with posting comments to the web site. :Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
thank you Lilian for these great shade plants. Now I have to hunt them up on the web.
These are some great ideas for shade, Lilian. I'm particularly drawn to the Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’... what a beauty. I was completely unaware of the Cardamine trifolia, love those leaves! It's also very cool to see your wasabi... for some absurd reason in the back of my head I thought wasabi came from a root. With the bright green color??? Really? Thanks for setting me straight Lilian, my brain can be a little scary once in a while!
Lilian, couple of questions: is the Anemone nemorosa a little invasive? I find my Anemone canadensis is taking over my Geranium sanguineum bed. Also how long can you pick the Chervil? We love cilantro, but it's growing season is so short I have to start one pot and a month later start the second pot. Maybe we could substitute the chervil? I believe I could still find room for a bed of it. Beautiful pictures and suggestions, thank you!
Hi, Sandy, I wanted to share a note I just received from Steve, the editor of Fine Gardening about some temporary problems with posting comments to GPOD:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
What great pictures and ideas for shade gardening, Lilian - thanks so much for sharing. I am also especially admiring the anemone and the Cardamine. Does anybody know if the anemone can tolerate hot, humid and dry summers? Does it go dormant in the summer? Is it aggressive as the fall anemones tend to be? Beautiful flowers - would look lovely with some white daffodils which also seem to be more tolerant of the shade under deciduous trees.
Good morning Lilian! Thanks so much for sharing these wonderful shade plants! Iam in a quander about what to plant in some shady areas that i have. I so love the foilage of the wasabi. And the melittis is one i will use for sure! There are so many nice cardamines available these days. Ive enjoyed your garden! Thanks
Hi, Jeanne, I wanted to share a note from Steve - apparently they are making changes to the website so we won't be able to comment for a couple of days until they get the new format up and running.
Good morning, Lilian. Your “little “ city garden is certainly full of some interesting plants. The Melittis looks like a great one to try in my woodland areas. I love the ‘vestal’ anemone when planted under the rhododendrons. The deer have kept us from trying this in our garden but I’ve admired it in others. Love those wasabi leaves. Do you know if it’s invasive like similar plants such as horseradish? Thanks for a great share.
Hi, Linda,
I wanted to share the note I just received from Steve regarding the web site and ability to comment on photos:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
These are all new to me, Lillian. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks all for your comments. English is my second language so I would answer all the questions in this. My garden is very small about 2000 square feet including paths and deck so I normally don't grow plants that are too enthusiastic (or invasive). I don't have hosta because it is too enthusiastic in my garden. All the plants in this post are more than 5 years old without transfer except Melittis melissophyllum. I consider my soil reasonably rich.
- Anemone nemorosa ‘Vestal’ is now a 1ft x 1ft square started from 4in pot. Dies back in the summer. Purchased from Vandysen Botanic Garden annual sale
- Cardamine trifolia is now a 1ft x 1ft square started from 4in pot in between two azaleas. I got it from Dunbar Garden club annual sale.
- Melittis melissophyllum does not have running roots but I transferred it once because it was too tall 20" tall in the front of my sunken garden. I don't know how 'invasive it would be in other parts of the world.) Gwen Odermatt at her lecture to Advanced Master Gardener. She owns Petals and Butterflies and on the Great Plant Pick committee.
- I have 3 Wasabi which is now 1ft x 1ft square starting from a 2.5" pot at $25.00. Propagated by division. I belief it has a taproot. (plants with taproot should not be too invasive I hope.) Purchased from Vandysen Botanic Garden annual Seedy Saturday.
- I don't have a problem with deer but do have problem with slugs and snail and all of above are slugs and snail resistant.
- Chervil is an annual I belief even-through some documented as perennial and it self-seeds. (a 50% reliable self seeder and I do hope it comes back this year) I grow it as a green mulch under apple trees. It is great in salads and salsa. Taste would be lost in cooking so add it before serving. I just like its very delicate small green leaves.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for all the info, Lillian. I can only speak in comparison to myself but you are an awesome record keeper.
Hi, Michaele,
I wanted to share the note I just received from Steve, to help prevent any new rumors from circulating:
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
Fine Gardening has banned Frank from this blog and suspect that you and other GPODers never will receive this message. I don't know why Frank has been blocked, but I hate it. I also hope that Fine Gardening will continue to allow me to be a blogger on this site, but I am not very hopeful.
I live in the northwest and grow Anenome 'Jean Hobert' and three leaf cardamine. I love the cardamine. I'm going to try the Melittis melissophyllum.
Lillian, where did you buy this? I looked online and can't find anyone selling it. thanks.
I couldn't find it either, so I checked Chiltern seeds in the UK. They have seeds for it. I'm tempted to try and start some.
https://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/search?q=Melittis+melissophyllum
FYI, to all bloggers on this site, our fellow gardener the Wizard of Oz, has been blocked from ever posting any more on this site. I hate it as I know we all love Frank and his quirky Australian sense of humor and sharing of the unique Australian flora. I only know this because Frank and I are also Facebook friends and I don't understand why this was done. My hope is that I will not also be blocked, but so be it if I am. Fine Gardening will have lost two very faithful followers.
Thanks for the post and Franks is off the road with GPOD and I am a true follower of him so I would off the road as well. Truly enjoyed it for the past few years and great to know you all. Please Facebook me if you would like to stay in touch with me. Thanks for Fine Gardening to post my submissions.
Lilian,
I've been in touch with Steve for a couple of days, and he is working to loosen up the rules that had been put into place for GPOD. I don't know how things stand between him and Frank.
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
Hi Sonya. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
Frank has not said he has been banned or blocked from GPOD, but he has been actively discouraged from contributing so often because someone complained that he was dominating the posts. Honestly, Frank's participation was one of the key reasons I began responding to posts on GPOD and I know many of the regulars have enjoyed communicating with him about his colourful Aussie plants. Plants are at the heart of gardening, so Frank's posts were always interesting and relevant.
I have always enjoyed the positive and supportive tone of our GPOD community, but these recent events have left me feeling dismayed and disappointed. If someone didn't want to see the extra photos Frank posted, couldn't they just skip them rather than complain? I suspect that there are more who enjoyed interacting with Frank than the number of complainers. If you think GPOD has made a misstep here, please send a short email message to Steve Aitken at [email protected] as he has invited below.
Hoping to see many of you on Facebook soon!
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
thanks for some great alternatives for shade plants- Will have to search for some of these!
Lilian, thank you for sharing your lovely photos! Anything that can stand up to slugs and snails is a winner in my book. You did a great job of adding supplemental information about these plants. I know you are sometimes a bit apologetic about your English, but it has improved even in the past year and it is so much better than my limited Mandarin! I can say "hello", "thank you", and "rice" and I cannot write any of them, so you are way ahead of me.
I, too, am upset that Frank has been banned from this blog. Especially if he was banned because he was asking for the same information that several of the rest of us were also asking. And, especially if there was no warning given that further questions would result in his being banned. One of his last entries was to ask Joseph to please answer a question that I had asked which has still not been answered. I won't have any way to let the rest of you know if I am also banned from this blog, as I am not on Facebook - but if I do get banned, you will know because you won't see any more entries from me.
Who do we express our unhappiness to?
Cheryl,
No one was banned, nor was there any suggestion of it. The only mention of banning is in this thread. If you -- or anyone -- has questions or concerns, please feel free to email me directly at [email protected]
Hi Cheryl. Lilian Ho has set up a "Colour of Plants" album on Facebook to which she, Frank, and I will be contributing. If you and any of the GPOD community wish to see it and/or participate, please send a Facebook "friend request" to Lilian Ho, Frank Greenhalgh, or Lorraine Robson (I'm the one with the pink peonies photo on Facebook).
I hope you and everyone who enjoyed interacting with Frank here on GPOD will write a brief email message to Steve Aitken, editor of Fine Gardening magazine, as he has requested below at [email protected] to let him know that discouraging Frank's participation was not the right move.
Always please to see Clean and Green photos. Garden is a little paradise made by man here in earth.
Build up some wood crafts in the garden. https://tinyurl.com/ycs8oncc
Good morning Lillian. I’ve fallen in love with your Mellitis. However, it’s impossible for me to find! Evidently it has an American patent pending, which means it cannot be propagated without permission. Do you (or anyone writing here) no where I can get some?
Windermere,
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
Hi, Diane, Steve asked me if I could help get word out that the comment section of the GPOD blog is down, and will be until Wednesday when they complete installation of the new beta format.
Steve just sent me the following and asked if there is any way I can get
it out to others, so I'm trying following back on this thread to get
the word out. It is regarding their change over to the beta site:
Hi Guys,
Commenting on the GPOD has been shut down until
Wednesday to facilitate the change over to our new platform. Any one
whose log-in doesn’t carry over will be contacted via email to set up a
new account.
If you could get the word out to anyone in the
group, I would appreciate it. I was informed that this was happening,
turned around to post about it, and they were shut off. The one time I
was on top of something.
Thanks for your help,
Steve
Steve Aitken
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